The Tribune

HarryWyckoff 9 years, 2 months ago

10 people dead or injured in 4 separate shootings between Friday night and Sunday morning.

Imagine how it would be if crime wasn't down!!

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Emac 9 years, 2 months ago

Wow this country is in deep trouble! Not taking away from the seriousness of this issue, but das a fat police ay...What happen to the force man. I remember when ya had to be a certain height and physically fit to join. Boy how things have changed!

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banker 9 years, 2 months ago

Cry, my beloved country.

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yeswecan 9 years, 2 months ago

Lord, let peace flood this country! In Jesus' name, amen.

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Cobalt 9 years, 2 months ago

In the meantime....... Perry Christie's busy doing the Perry shuffle.

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Bahamianpride 9 years, 2 months ago

This is terrible, country out of control, and as disturbing as these murders are I agree with Cobalt one cannot help but be distracted by that undisciplined lard ass Officer. Commissioner, Sir u gotta put in mandatory fitness requirements and yearly physical test for officers. When in uniform a criminal looks u up and down and make decisions to test you many times based on your appearance and the public feels hopeless when they see this as a line of defense.

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B_I_D___ 9 years, 2 months ago

Very terrible weekend. Definitely set to blow away all murder records in 2015. The PLP who had the answers should be VERY proud. As for the overweight police officer...in my thinking, it all comes down to officers being armed with guns. now, don't get me wrong, I think they SHOULD have guns if they intend to have any chance on surviving the streets of today with heavily armed criminals. But back before the officers were armed, they needed to be able to catch someone in a foot chase, stand their ground and fight if need be and subdue someone not quite wanting to be detained by the law. Now with guns in hand...they can be that little bit slower, that little bit fatter...bullet faster than ya feet!!

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Bahamianpride 9 years, 2 months ago

BID, they are armed, just not off duty which has to change. I have been through numerous amounts of tactical training and I tell u it aint easy shooting on the move or at moving things. In most police shootouts many times when adrenaline gets pumping even 100% accurate shooters hit maybe 10% of the time. These are well conditioned tactical guys hitting 10% under pressure so imagine a fat bloob. First he has to put down his burger, get out the car without a heart attack, unholster his weapon that's probably lost in his fat waistline, then hold those large arms steady on a target that's moving while he's moving. And remember the use of deadly force is only warranted in cases where the escape of this individual produces imminent danger to the public, therefore u not suppose to shoot at running shoplifters. Remember most police work doesn't involve using weapons, and one can argue obese individuals like this guy may be more prone to shoot at a petty thief or shoplifter vs a discipline officer who would only use deadly force to protect life not property. As a general statement we as Bahamians including myself need to do a better job of taking care of our health.

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truetruebahamian 9 years, 2 months ago

If someone breaks into your home, kill them first if you have the opportunity, drag out the body and put it headfirst into a garbage can.

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Bahamianpride 9 years, 2 months ago

Truetruebahamian, now the arming of citizens is what needs to happen, allow me to purchase a handgun so I don't have to really on fatty.. U break into my house or try to rob or harm me or my family u get shoot period.. Crime would decrease quickly..

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John 9 years, 2 months ago

Another murder less than an hour ago. The punishment must be made to suit the crime. Unfortunately many of these young men who are killing do not even fear death. They feel it is better to go out in a hail of bullets than allow someone to "dis" you.

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TalRussell 9 years, 2 months ago

Comrades, slow down for as bad as this news reaches the nation's capital out Grand Bahama, there is no need to insult our policeman's nor call for even more arming of our policeman's, citizens and residents.
What's next, loud cries pleading for the return Hangman's noose?

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PastorTroy 9 years, 2 months ago

SAY WHATCHA LIKE: When I've protected you and you decide to bring my arch enemy to my doorsteps, nothing to see here folks, it's the gays, no it's those angry black men who need to get a job, let's keep praying for them, it's not poverty, nope, it's not obvious political corruption in BOTH main parties, nope, it's not hypocritical religious indoctrination, nope, it's not a poor educational system, nope, it's not the mass disenfranchisement of young men from the 'war on drugs' nope, it's not a Christmas Counsel that feeds on the fear and ignorance of people to get rich and keep them mentally poor, nope, it's not dinosaurs, with dino degrees from the 1960's negotiating with savvy ivy league businessmen/women, nope, it's not a populace willing to DIE for political party while the nation suffers, nope, it's not that our government is FRESH OUTTA IDEAS and don't know how to bring NEW money into our country other than selling all our natural resources, nope, it's not that we still holding on to the tourism golden goose to deliver us from everything, nope, it's those black men who need Jesus and a job and everything will be just alright, after all Christopher Columbus discovered The Bahamas in 1492... #EconomicAssassination #China #Murica

My heart aches for all the families suffering because of all this nonsense.

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TalRussell 9 years, 2 months ago

Comrade PastorTroy, while tourism may not be the chief MO, for our gone all crazy thugs, there are credible signs where the other natives have also lost their good senses when it comes to protecting the ownership of our beaches and natural resources. I mean, how much waterfront are we prepared to give to a Baha Mar, or a remodeled and renamed British Colonial Hotel and Bay Street merchants Waterfronts. I ask you, how many more 'docks' will the natives allow to be built?
We have become cash dependent upon the bucks generated from cruise ships stop-over visitors, better known as the McDondald's hamburgers and KFC - low budget tourists.
And, now Flowers, thinks that qualifies Minister of Tourism (and Numberman's Enforcer) Obediah as our next prime minister?
You couldn't possibly make this craziness up. it for real, and so is Flowers and Obediah.

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a2z 9 years, 2 months ago

Fatty fatty 2 by 4 does not inspire confidence. How is he supposed to protect me, other than to filter the bullet?

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bahamian242 9 years, 2 months ago

I don't know what happened there? There is no Bamboo Shack in GB, like so many in New Providence! That is what Police like!

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sheeprunner12 9 years, 2 months ago

Murders in our country happen for just a few reasons: jealousy, money, drugs or revenge ....... which one applies here??????????

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TalRussell 9 years, 2 months ago

Comrades, I think it's fair say that animals kill to supply need. These thugs will kill you, for pleasure. Creatures of the wild can be retained but who knows with these animals.

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UserOne 9 years, 2 months ago

I am appalled at some of the comments here. This is a report of yet another murder in our country and the reaction of some is to discuss the size of police officers. Engaging in body shaming of others while people are grieving the loss of family members? What have we come to?

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John 9 years, 2 months ago

Just about every funeral held in the Bahamas is held in a Christian church. So basically you can say young, Christian men are being murdered. But they are being killed by other Christian, but not God fearing men. It is not about Catholics killing baptists, but children of God killing each other. The first murder was because of jealousy. A brother killed the other one because of his relationship with God. The bible says "as it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end." And yes there are "brothers"killing each other because of jealousy. And they kill because of a lack of a relationship with God. Christ said "I came that you may have life more abundantly ". Satan has come to kill and destroy. Chose this day whom you will serve. But this message is not reaching many young men who have taken up the weapons of satan: drugs, alcohol guns and anger and jealousy. And they have gone to do battle against the body of Christ,

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Bahamianpride 9 years, 2 months ago

You guys need to cut it out with God this, God that... Try talking to a hungry man about God its useless, all he seeks is food... You eating he hungry, he be ready to kill u. Human instinct is to survive and these guys are in survival mode. Its easy to speak from a position of comfort about God but the young men in these over the hill communities only think about how they gonna survive each day. Church on every block, everyone is God this, God that, yet the place is overran with criminals and corruption. Maybe we need to focus more on doing more with education and economic development to built over the hill communities. Urban renewal not enough. Faith without works is useless... I use to hear it all the time as a kid, God will provide, that's some b.s. This mentality keeps our people poor, powerless and as victims with all hopes of a better life placed in the afterlife. So they suffer and don't improve the situation of their daily existence. Religion essentially keeps them poor and suffering for generations. We got to many poorly socialized, raised in poverty, unemployed, dangerous young men hanging and running around the Bahamas. We have a corrupt government, uncontrollable illegal immigration, poor education, increase debt, highly inflated prices, and a medical system that's substandard. U have to address these and many others problems as they and many are all the underlying problems, high Crime is only the symptom. One thing I am certain of is it ain't gonna be fixed with prayer... or looking at the sky waiting for answers..

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Bahamianpride 9 years, 2 months ago

Truthhurts, many of our people including corrupt politicians and clergy talk about God all day, yet they never live Jesus. We good for talk but talk is cheap because very few live the teaching and the example, this is reflected in our criminal minded politicians and morally corrupt society, that's what I'm talking about. Paster living the good life while most of his flock are 1 check away from homelessness. Whether it's the reality of life or laziness the thought process is the same with many young men, maybe u should talk to them sometimes like I do. My point is we abuse God's name and u cannot pray problems away. Fact is we have too many young men born to single mother's, raised without male guidance, and u add to that economic challenges and the sin of envy takes over. I do not to rationalize or excuse their behavior but we must acknowledge more religious talk don't work, they grew up listening to it and even the pastor who preaches it he cannot stop stealing or having sex with women in the church or molesting kids.... And he spews it constantly...

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iamatruebahamian 9 years, 2 months ago

The way that we go wrong, if anyone paying any attention, the politicians with in themselves are not professional police officer or with a back ground of security strategies, may be that's needed in government, but even so how do we hold government in the pass The FNM or The PLP now the government in something they do not know how to do. Yes of coarse they make tougher laws and amend laws but we complain about how it not getting better, but there's a very simple answer to the question. Both the FNM and the PLP are expecting the people in charge of this task are qualified to do the job but the simple answer is they are not!! Think about it for a second who is in charge of ultimately in keeping us safe? this is why no matter who is the government it will get worse because we as a nation has not address the unlined problem, which is the "Police Commissioner"! Of which everyday get praises but doing a bad job! if this commissioner was working any where else in the world he would of being fired from the first record high levels in murders, because he is the go to person for crime prevention period! So the out cry should be we need him gone and or replace, he is the denominator for both parties and we have still have high levels of murders.

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sheeprunner12 9 years, 2 months ago

This is my point .................... Bahamian murder has very few motives ................ we talk God and Jesus but we live like devils everyday .................... Bahamian Christianity is only skin-deep, its a cultural thing

These people are murdered (for one of a handful of reasons) and then we have a $30,000 funeral and cry and say how "good" these people were who were murdered ......... but what was the real story that is never told??????????? ............ why are we so hypocritical???????

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PastorTroy 9 years, 2 months ago

Some great post above, many so call religious leaders fail to read, just repeating regurgitated literalist babblings. Christianity itself is not a book of peace, it about WAR! it's about divide and conquer, it's about turning fathers against son's and mothers against daughters if any of them choose not to be controlled be its doctrine, this is so evident in many poor countries where religion is used to pacify the masses, how many Bahamian parents have kicked their children out of their homes because they choose not to go to church every Sunday etc? This is their own flesh and blood they carried for 9 months! Religion is about control, this is the essence of religion! You're fooling yourself if you don't think ISIL think that they are carrying out god's work! And don't fool yourself, in a fundamentalist Christian theocracy Christianity will be committing the same atrocities or worse, am not speculating, the doctrine is written in the bible today! Yes, the King James version! Religion has failed this generation, we live in an information age where religious leaders are not the only ones with the keys to truth and knowledge, like in the days when the bible was written to convince the poor, the uneducated to submit to the selfish laws of the ruling class, it was not out of fear of the laws the ruling class created, but god himself! (see the movie The Book of Eli) Hitler did not just hate the Jews, it was about control, slavery in the U.S was not about hating black skin, it was about money and control of goods and services, in all these, religion was used as a control mechanism. Initially, the job of a church overseer was for white men only, it was to make sure when the slaves gathered they was 'preaching' what he wanted to hear, which is to keep the masses humble with fear and trembling and not teaching them to be self sufficient and emancipating themselves, those who choose not to submit to this control system was simply killed ; this is history! Shame on all religious institutions who refused to stand up and preach that the war on drugs is modern day genocide, mass incarceration of poor and minority was not only because of racism, but money and control, this is not a black vs. white issue; however, now that ‘white homes’ are feeling the pain of the war on drugs, in spite of its 7 to 1 distortional rate overwhelmingly targeting blacks and Hispanics the tide is rapidly changing in the U.S.

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PastorTroy 9 years, 2 months ago

Shame on the Bahamian government who can’t seem to get enough of blood money recycled back into their hands by the U.S to repeat more of the same , it's just another racket legally created by the ruling class, signed into law by the political class and was promoted and marketed by the religious class as god’s word, just like slavery was. Our only solution to this is education, it’s so stupid to keep your population illiterate but expect to have a thriving economy, from what? Crime? The Political class must be voted out! Their kids must not be voted in either, nor their cronies; this colonialist divide and rule tactic must stop, trying to keep the masses uneducated as a means to control them, mass information is at our finger tips, in our pockets, and gangster rap about getting rich or die trying is legal, it was so excepted by the masses they made a movie too, this is what many of our disenfranchised youths listen to; movies like Shottas and YouTube is littered with gangsterism videos how can you control what the young people watch? This problem is EXASPERATING to say the least, and now that marijuana is becoming legal who is again reaping the benefits? And who is so indoctrinated and disenfranchised that the very thing that made them what they are, they are not allow to reap the benefits; shame on any ‘black government’ for not putting those affected by the war on drugs in position to grow their own cannabis and make a living for themselves and their families. Am sorry if I offend anyone, but the time for sweet conversation is pass, we are literally loosing this our next generation. Religious leaders are going to have some explaining to do in 10 years when cannabis begins curing cancer.

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PastorTroy 9 years, 2 months ago

Put the bible down for 2 hours and read what's going on around you, and do not be deceived, when the U.S sneezes the Bahamas not only catch a cold, but sneezes too. READ, READ, READ, THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE BAHAMAS TOO!!!

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc…

Have you had your LEGAL DRUGS today? Read here!

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/mira…

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jus2cents 9 years, 2 months ago

My Condolences to all the families who have lost loved ones to this epidemic of savagery.

Now Calm Down.

Take a breath.

Think: What is the source of all this crime, who should we direct our frustrations and anger at? & what is the solution?

There is only one answer- the judicial system is broken the Laws are not being enforced, the criminals are not being rehabilitated, and the 'leaders' don't have the skills to fix any of it, so let us do what any business owner would do if someone is not performing, Get Rid Of Them!

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