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On the Street: Bahamians’ view on the referendum

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Cheriane Johnson, left, and Natasha Court, both plan to vote yes for the first three bills, but no to the fourth.

By RASHAD ROLLE

Tribune Staff Reporter

rrolle@tribunemedia.net

ORDINARY Bahamians expressed confusion about the upcoming referendum and alarm over the fourth bill in interviews with The Tribune yesterday, with even those who plan to vote for all four amendments saying they expect the referendum to fail.

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Dorsey McPhee said he plans to vote yes - so that his daughters have greater rights, but fears the referendum will fail.

Of the dozens of people The Tribune spoke to in the Shirley Street and downtown area, those more educated were likelier to say they will vote for the bills.

The less educated were pessimistic about the government’s intentions, raising concerns about the contradictory opinions that have been aired by commentators.

In terms of numbers, both the “yes” and “no” groups paled in comparison to the number of people who said they don’t plan to vote at all.

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Albert Bell plans to vote no to the fourth bill because he fears it will lead to same-sex marriage.

Enthusiasm for the referendum did not appear to be high among men or women.

So widespread was the fear that the fourth bill would lead to same-sex marriage that some interviewees believed this topic is what the referendum is about.

One woman launched into a tirade about the need to satisfy the United States on gay issues when asked her opinion about the referendum, for instance.

“I wouldn’t vote but I can’t say nothing because the States doing it,” the woman, who did not want to be named, said, referring to same-sex marriage even though the topic wasn’t raised by The Tribune.

“If we don’t do what the States doing, we doomed. If the States say gay (men) can’t get touched, then the gay (men) can’t get touched.”

The mood in the downtown Straw Market towards the referendum was overwhelmingly unenthusiastic.

Numerous women - none of whom wanted to be named - said they either won’t vote or they will vote no.

“I gon’ vote and I gon’ vote no because I have children,” one vendor said. “Think this a game hey? I have small children.”

Said another: “I don’t believe in me and a man using the same bathroom.”

When told that the referendum is not about transgender rights or same-sex marriage, she said: “That’s what they say but it will lead to that.”

Another vendor said: “I voted no for the gambling thing and they still do it so I ain’t voting. I ain’t wasting my time.”

The attitude of people working in stores on Bay Street was not much different.

Natasha Bar, 47, said the referendum is confusing.

“I plan on voting but it seems like it’s a lot of mix up going on and everyone seems to have their point,” she said. “For all the uncertainty I’m going to vote no for all of them.”

Ms Bar said providing greater rights to women is not a pressing issue.

“For me, we are not like the Middle East,” she said. “This gender equality and all that, for us, women aren’t being held from being what we want to be. We can be doctors. We had a female governor general, so what are we complaining about?”

Her colleague, Patricia Seymour Bowleg, agreed and said she is concerned about “alimony”.

Outside the store where the women worked, Albert Bell, 66, said he would vote for the first three bills but will reject the fourth one because he fears it will lead to same-sex marriage.

“As I understand it, the first three they don’t need to bring but the fourth one is the questionable one and seeing as how I don’t understand it, I will reject it,” he said.

“If they are holding to a position that says there’s nothing wrong and there will be no gay marriage in The Bahamas, that’s not an assurance because governments lie. But the first three bills is a yes for me.”

A woman named Rose, an accountant, said she won’t vote for the bills because she’s concerned they will give too much power to foreigners.

“What concerns me is the fact that we have such a large foreign population that this provides an opportunity for us to be outnumbered and even though they say a man would have to prove that that child is his I think there will be loopholes,” she said, adding that she has never read the Constitution.

Sheleta Collie also expressed confusion about the referendum, although she said she doesn’t plan to vote at all.

“They asking Bahamians to vote for something we never read,” she said, adding she resents attempts to make it seem like persons like her are uninformed.

Cheriane Johnson and Natasha Court, a pair working in the Shirley Street area, said they would both vote for the first three bills, but not for the fourth.

“I wouldn’t vote for the fourth bill because I have kids,” Ms Court said. “When you have kids you have to set moral standards to bring them up under the right way. This supposed to be a Christian nation.”

One woman, Victoria Fitzgerald, said she will likely vote “yes” to all the bills, but she said she began having second thoughts after former Court of Appeal President Joan Sawyer dismissed the bills earlier this week.

For his part, Dorsey McPhee, a lawyer, predicted that the referendum will fail even though he plans to vote yes to all four questions.

He said he wants to pass on greater rights to his daughters.

Calling the issue of same-sex marriage a red herring, he said: “Bahamians, particularly women…will vote against themselves, which they’ve done in the past.”

Comments

ThisIsOurs 8 years, 7 months ago

Lol."Said another: “I don’t believe in me and a man using the same bathroom.”". Well she pretty much summed it up eh? All this talk about the word sex and what gender means and if sex is determined at birth...waste of time, “I don’t believe in me and a man using the same bathroom.

themessenger 8 years, 7 months ago

How on earth can you have an opinion on or hold a position on something that you haven't even taken the time to read , study and, if possible, understand for yourself. Rather than relying on the gossip in the market and the rantings of the xenophobic nationalists and the preaching of the homophobic pastors to form your opinions for you,for Gods sake, educate yourselves for a change for change is what is needed. But then again you can take some people out of the bush but you can't take the bush out of them. Bahamians won't let you down, they won't disappoint you.

Well_mudda_take_sic 8 years, 7 months ago

Sadly, most Bahamians do not realise just how important it is for them to make the effort to cast a resounding "NO!" vote on June 7th to all four of the seriously flawed and harmful proposed amendments to our constitution. Your vote is most important. The government would love nothing more than to have a small voter turnout as this would work to their advantage. The first three bills will bring many foreigners to our shores unless you show up at your designated polling station and vote "NO" to each of them in the same way that most Bahamians will be voting "NO" to the fourth bill. Please do everything you possibly can to vote and vote sensibly. This is your most fundamental right as a Bahamian and one that must not be taken lightly by any of us.

Economist 8 years, 7 months ago

You mean showing up on these shores like the young girl who was in the newspaper the other day. Born of a Bahamian father in The Bahamas.

You must be a very scared person to want to punish people like her. People who only know this as their country and would work hard to make it better.

Well_mudda_take_sic 8 years, 7 months ago

In recent decades we have had many show up on our shores claiming to be Bahamian and many of them were unfortunately only required to prove it by paying the right person. And just look at where that has got us today. We are a small nation with very limited habitable land and resources. Common sense cards need to be played here, not sympathy cards; otherwise none of us will have any quality of life worth living down the road. The first three constitution bills would open our country's doors to a massive new wave of foreigners, many of whom would be claiming Bahamian status as far back as July 10th, 1973. Our country simply cannot economically sustain such a wave of new foreigners at a time when so many Bahamians are either under-employed or unemployed. The political PLP elite would of course love having all of the additional new voters no matter what the cost to the rest of us.

sheeprunner12 8 years, 7 months ago

That less than 1% of "dispossessed" people are what the PLP are fighting for to get their "equal rights" ...... especially those in the rainbow coalition

POINTS TO PONDER

How many so-called non-national persons born overseas REALLY want Bahamian citizenship???? ........ how many Bahamian women who marry foreigners REALLY want their husbands to get Bahamian citizenship????? ...... how many Bahamian men who have outside children are even REALLY checking for these children to give them their names/titles/citizenship????? .......... how many people will REALLY and TRULY benefit from this "waste of time" hullaballo Referendum ?????? ........ 5,000, 10,000????? ...... and at what cost (to the vast majority of bona fide Bahamians) to the future national security and cultural integrity of our country?????? ................... why has Pindling not been condemned for giving us this Taliban-like law in 1973????? ....... I await a response from Ruby & Co.

sheeprunner12 8 years, 7 months ago

............... and if this is not a retroactive Law .......... we are leaving this decision to the whims and fancies of future liberal governments to further dispossess and bastardize our sacred land ......... Vote NO!!!!!

hurricane 8 years, 7 months ago

First of all, this wasn't a scientific survey by any stretch of the imagination but this paper is quick to conclude that the more education you have the more likely you are to vote yes? Rubbish reporting! And insulting as well.

hnhanna 8 years, 7 months ago

I am voting NO on all four

ThisIsOurs 8 years, 7 months ago

Me too. Has nothing to do with "not supporting women's rights" or "not wanting foreigners to take over", I simply don't like being manipulated and I think these bills are pure manipulation same as the gaming bills. They can come back when they're ready to be open about what they're really trying to accomplish,

sheeprunner12 8 years, 7 months ago

Vote No 242 ........... NO, NO, NO, NO

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