brich30039 11 years, 8 months ago on THE WATCHWOMAN: Myles Munroe's dangerous doctrine for women
THE WATCHWOMAN: Myles Munroe's dangerous doctrine for women
I totally agree. I see you mentioned abusive and abusive relationships, but left out the fact that he clearly spoke out against abuse in the same video. Not trying to over-assume here, but I think your view in your article represents one of a considerable portion of women in today's society. Munroe's and the bible's views on men and their roles does not by comparison make women second or subservient to them. The example of presenting the woman to yourself can in this context be equivalent to loving others as you love yourself. The emphasis is not supposed to be on the "to yourself", but on how you treat and love her. If her weight is an issue, either be willing to get up with her and work at it instead of complaining, starting to have wandering eyes, or just shut up and accept it.
I struggle with my girlfriend now in trying to get her to understand the concept of allowing the man to be the head of the household, but also being one with him at the same time. There is no hierarchy, there's just oneness. When a male makes any decision, not that he has to or should have to make all of them, if he truly loves and is one with his woman his decision will be the one that his wife would have made or agreed with.
Roofbreaker 11 years, 5 months ago on THE WATCHWOMAN: Myles Munroe's dangerous doctrine for women
THE WATCHWOMAN: Myles Munroe's dangerous doctrine for women
I have been listening to Myles Munroe for 17 years. The very first sermon I heard was Singleness. It was a life changing message and concept to me because of the idea of being single and not understanding your purpose in your singleness was not understood in Christianity let alone in the secular world. Myles Munroe is not influencing dinky little fly by night ministries. He is influencing and interacting with Governments, Presidents and officials of the United Nations. God is obviously moving in His life because His fruit is there and The Lord said: you will know them by their fruit. I don't see bad fruit being produced from this ministry. If you can walk away from Myles Munroe's Ministry distraught and damaged, then I think you have a problem not his ministry. His message is positive, and encourages you as a woman or man to seek what you were born to do. As a woman who understands my role and position on this earth and in my household I find it hard to be offended by my husband investing in me to become a better me. Which he has so wonderfully done. Myles wife is not a underdog and toy or "weird science" Barbie doll Myles Munroe has formed. Myles Munroe's message has been to bring out what was already present and help one discover it and recognize it. Everyone is already built with their purpose and Myles is helping you to recognize what that is. He is helping husbands to aid their wives to become that also because women can get weighed down by losing themselves in the family and as a wife feeling empty with no purpose. My husband and I love BFM Ministries and have discovered our purpose and helped us to get it in motion. Many are not that blessed to have done that. They are still robotic soldiers who do nothing more but become an usher, or choir member for life and doing nothing but going from home to church and feeling empty in their Christian Journey. I think that one message you have heard is not enough for you to judge an entire ministry. You need to listen to more messages and also listen to Myles Munroe's wife. She is an eloquent, confident, purposeful women of God who speaks with authority in her own position on this earth. She is not under any ones thumb but respects and understands her true character and purpose in this life along side her husband being a true essence of a perfect example of a help meet. I am blessed everyday and praise God that when I feel hopeless I hear God using Myles to continue to remind me that the most important thing I will ever do in my life is "Seeking First Gods Kingdom" if you have not read "Rediscovering the Kingdom" I recommend you do so. God bless. The grave yards are full of great Men and Women who never become great because they did not give their ability responsibility. MYLES MUNROE
dfitzerl 11 years, 8 months ago on THE WATCHWOMAN: Myles Munroe's dangerous doctrine for women
THE WATCHWOMAN: Myles Munroe's dangerous doctrine for women
Is it possible that you view the presentation with a particular bias?
The context of the presentation is not about rulership but relationship and responsibilities. Most of the best CEOs in the world never give an order, yet they are the head of their company. It is their job to be responsible for and encourage/challenge the organization they lead to develop and succeed. Not force it to. But they are the ones who have to answer to their Boards/Shareholders. Submit is a cuss word to todays woman even though in biblical terms it simply means to respect. It has nothing to do with "value" but everything to do with "roles". You go on your job and submit to your supervisor who has been given responsibility for you but you do not think that it is proper to submit to your husband who is given responsibility for you and your family IF (big word) he is in submission to God himself. Neither of these is suppose to be unconditional submission. They are both conditional on the appointed person acting in accordance with the laws and principles of the organization they are apart of. If you don't understand the principles God expects the husband to operate under I can understand why you may reject the idea of him (or anyone else) being your leader. I don't hear anyone complaining about the role called "mother" that God appointed to women. We all accept it as appropriate. No man feels less equal because he is not apointed to the role of mother by God.
Additionally, there is nothing in God's word "that creates a foundation and justification for the abuse of women throughout the world". God is all about unconditional love (agape). He challenges us to love (agape) our neighbours (especially our wives, even to die for them). His word says that if we do that we will have fulfilled all His laws for love (agape) can not create harm.
I respectively suggest that the individual statements you highlight should be read in the context of the entire message and not as messages of the own and not from the perspective that they make women less equal.